Police Operations

Dale Hodgeson Testimony

Date of Trip: 3/16/08
Place: Tegucigalpa, Honduras
Team: 5 women, 4 men
Objective: Meet with management at local orphanage – Minister to girls and staff at inner city girl's home – Deepen relationships with local church

Going to Tegucigalpa on a mission like that was such an honor. It was difficult on all levels; emotionally, physically and spiritually. Going outside of my own environment was challenging, but walking into the darkness of abuse (of every kind) was very demanding.
Putting a team together that was willing to take risks, and put their own concerns and fears aside in order to complete the task at hand proved to be one of the awesome things that God did on this trip.
One of my jobs was to lead devotions each morning and that was such a moving time for me. When we gathered that first morning I looked around the table and thought to myself, what can this small group of ordinary people do that would have any lasting value?
2 Corinthians 8: 10 was the base we worked from that week and I quickly realized we weren't chosen for our strength, it would be our weakness that God would use for His weapons against evil.

Our first step into that world was the orphanage in the middle of a busy part of town. There were about 200 children there and like all businesses and homes in that area, it was a fortress. Once inside we had the pleasure of meeting one of the top administrators. She was so kind to us and showed us the facility. She was very proud of the home they were able to provide for these children, showing a deep care for their well being. One highlight of our time there with the administrator was when she shared her grief with us. She was open with us, sharing her teenage son had died recently; it was very moving to share her loss and pray with her. After our time together she found a guide for us so we could get safely to the girls home.
The girl's home is right in the middle of a very rough part of town with high walls, barbed wire and electrical wire that surrounds the complex. It keeps

the neighborhood out and the girls in. There is a lot of poverty there and so much crime. This is where these girls come from. They are very young and all have been sexually abused to one degree or another.
Shortly after arriving we all sat down in the living room and they introduced themselves and we got to tell them about ourselves (there were about 20 girls). This is where it struck me; our team was uniquely qualified to be in this hostile environment. As each person on the team shared their story and how they got here, it became clear that we each had something to give away.
Throughout the week relationships were built through teaching, crafts and games. It was so moving to be a witness to the sharing that a few of the team members were able to do. They shared of their own abuse and of the shame that is so deeply rooted in this horrible sin. Through Christ, they found themselves speaking about the unspeakable, they were able to take their pain and shame and throw it back in the face of evil. Their courage helped open the door for most of the girls there and it was encouraging to see how my brother was able to minister to them. With the doors opened to their hearts, they began to open up. It was so impressive to see a group of abused and oppressed young children taste love, to have their shame and reality known and still be accepted. That has left a deep imprint on my heart.
There was one girl that really touched me. Her name in English means "a person of royalty" – but she was never treated as royalty in her young life. Sexually abused as a very young child, she was raped by her step dad when she was eleven and had a son (the son was given away at birth). She was married off shortly after that.
Her head was bruised with a large knot that was split open. Her husband (who was in jail when we were there) hit her over the head with a rock in anger. She wanted him to get out so they could be together. She's 14 years old and abuse is the only world she's known. One afternoon I saw her weaving a bracelet, it was slightly bigger than a ring. She told me it was for her son (who was almost 3). The first thing that hit me was this young child isn't old enough to know how big a 3 year olds' wrist would be. It was heart breaking.

The next day I was sick (for about 24 hours) and I spent the evening alone at the hotel. I think it is the first time I have wept for someone else. I cried-out on her behalf throughout that night and that truly changed me.
To feel pain is so important and if we don't shut it off it will motivate us. It has motivated me to want to fight this evil and to do it God's way; with love. When we left Honduras I felt confident we left behind a part of ourselves and as a team we had done more in the area of hope than I ever thought possible. Since leaving there I have been actively preparing myself to return and give to those who have no hope and no way out. I want to be a part of something that will make a difference in these beautiful people's lives. This is just one of the many reasons I feel fortunate to be a part of Thin Blue Line Ministries International.

Dale Hodgeson
Vice President-Thin Blue Line Ministries International

Dale Kersting Testimony

My Experience with Thin Blue Line Ministries

By Dale Kersting

My first trip to Central America was the result of sickness. My good friend (Ned) was the original choice to go, but just before the trip he was diagnosed with terminal cancer. (Not to worry – after being told he had six months to live, he has since recovered completely and is as healthy as a young mountain goat.) Being similarly trained, I was the next in line for this opportunity. I had spent the first 14 years of my adult life as a military policeman; I had been through the state reserve police academy and had a black belt in Tae Kwon Do. I knew that my part on the trip would be to train the local police in self-defense techniques. Unfortunately, the self-defense training they receive in most Central American police academies is often inadequate or antiquated.

I also knew the training they would receive would help open the door of trust. We didn't just train them, we loved them. They knew that we had invested a lot of time, money & effort just to be with them. For the most part, they appreciated the tactics we showed them and wanted more. The classes would always seem to start slow as the officers got a "feel" for us and tried to figure out what we are bringing to them. Then the mood would slowly transform to excitement and anticipation as they would learn new techniques and start asking questions. I really enjoyed watching the people who were the most reserved and standoffish get excited about learning how to disarm a gunman or throw someone over their shoulder. I would know they were "into it" when one of them would insist on using the technique you just taught them on one of the trainers. Eventually the gauntlet would be thrown down and they would expect you to prove to them that the technique worked in real life situations. That was always fun too. It's all about trust.

As I said before, the training was a way to love them so they would trust us enough to open their hearts and minds a bit so we could talk to them about God. After each training session Pastor Ken would speak to the group about God in a way that brought it home to each officer. Stress is a natural and ubiquitous part of police work – especially when you are undertrained, underequipped and working in an openly hostile environment. Officers live with the stress and find ways to distract themselves from it or medicate the pain it produces in ways that produce more emotional, spiritual and (eventually) physical pain. The problem is that these "solutions" are really just desperately poor substitutes for God. The answer they are so hungry for is a relationship with Jesus Christ.

When Pastor Ken speaks to the officers, he walks through the door of their every-day pain and offers them the truth of Christ. After my part of the training I would sit at the back of the group that Pastor Ken was speaking to. The same process would inevitably occur. At first they would appear passive if not disinterested as they listened and evaluated what he was bringing to them. Then they would begin asking questions and eventually become full participants in the conversation. The more time they had with him, the more questions they would ask. Finally, here was someone who understood the stress of police work who wasn't judging them and who had an answer.

I was always amazed at how quickly they accepted and understood the spiritual aspect of their world as compared to here in the United States. The danger and immediacy of life in much of Central America provides much less opportunity for the jaded type of continuous distraction we seem to live in here. As the teaching progressed, a sense of urgency would infuse the group. They recognized that what they were learning could change their lives and that they had a very limited amount of time to receive and understand it. Many would accept Christ as their savior that day. Afterward, a spokesman for the group would always thank the trainers for the self-defense portion of the class before they would turn to Pastor Ken and recognize that his teaching was the one they really needed – and the real reason we were there. There is no substitute for Jesus Christ.

Of course, each mission became a personal time to experience God in new and deeper ways. I've been on seven trips so far and on each trip God would bring that certain person into my world that He would speak to me through. When I began going on these missions I was deeply insecure and bitter. In response, God introduced me to a waiter who worked three jobs and saw his family for a few hours each Sunday – and who was grateful to God for it. He was in exactly the right place at exactly the right time to provide me with an excellent example of having: a.) An eternal perspective, b.) A good attitude, and c.) Deep gratefulness to God. Many people, myself included, would be miserable in his position. However, this man literally beamed with contentment and, yes, gratitude. He knew that God had given him everything he had and they weren't burdens as much as opportunities.

On each trip, God would give me insight into why I was trapped in a certain belief (lie) about myself and show me the way to being healed and whole in that area. It has been a process and God is most certainly not done with me. I've learned to experience His love and to appreciate what I have more than I thought possible. I am a different person than the anxious, conflicted man that first stepped off the plane in El Salvador. I thought I was working for God, but the reality is that He has been working in me.

Salvation under the radar

As we start, it might be good for the reader to know that probably every story I will tell you of salvation has been under the radar except for God Himself. No one really hears about it or knows about it. So here we go..

I was asked to speak to officers which is more difficult than to recruits because they are older, more experienced, and they are definitely hardened officers. Many of them have turned to addictive things to help them deal with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. Most of them don't even know they have PTSD. I was standing with the commander of a base, somewhere in Central America (it is a base that at some point in America's history our marines attacked and overtook. Now we are allies). It was about 9:00 am and from the tarmac I can see acres of openness surrounded by a jungle wall so thick that it's just not worth the money to build a road through it.

At this point I had no idea how many officers I was going to talk to (I was thinking about 10 to 20 officers). As I looked across the openness, I saw row after row after row of marching officers coming our way, more than 1500! At first it didn't register that these were the people I'd be addressing. Actually I was busy taking pictures of them because it was majestic and beautiful to see that many people walking in complete unity. As they got near, I put my camera up and stood by the Colonel. He said, "These are the men that you are going to be talking to".

There were between 1,500 and 2,000 officers! It took me one full week speaking five times a day to get through all the officers. We were in a subtropical area and everything was done outside in the subtropical sun. Man! That can really wore me out! Walking around in the mud and water, mosquitoes etc. it just wasn't the best conditions for speaking.

The first group that I spoke to was just like I described earlier; hardened and didn't want to be there. They were there because they were ordered to be there. As time drew near, I became more anxious and started wondering "what in the world I was going to talk to them about?" I know they had heard evangelists before and knew about Jesus. They knew I was a pastor-so what's going to be different? (By the way, I was asked to be there because of the lack of success of the people who preceded me.) The Colonel who is second highest in command is a Christian and was actually shot during the invasion of the U.S. and he knew these men needed help.

At this time, I began to ask questions that have become the familiar questions I ask all around Central America. One of them is "how many people in here have killed someone?" It was a hard question to ask and I don't know why I asked. I think, at first that it jolted everybody, but slowly one by one hands began to come up, to the point where I was getting overwhelmed, and so were the police officers who were with me from the US. They were beginning to be physically moved by how many officers raised their hands. So I asked another question "how many of you know someone that has been shot or killed?" Everyone raised their hand. I realized right then I walked into an arena that only God could get me through. He was the only hope for those men as they began their journey of healing; dealing with the things that have gone on in their lives. They were coming to the realization that they could be saved and the realization that salvation is free. I started to ask more questions because I knew with the questions I had just asked there had to be a lot of darkness in their lives. As I began to talk to them about where they lived, there came a point where I shared that I'd just come from another country next to theirs, and the day I left seven officers had committed suicide. That statement was a turning point where they could no longer restrain their emotions (which is good but it creates a whole different mess). What do you do with 400 officers that are beginning to feel and allow things to come out? That's when I let them know that they could be saved and that Jesus could live inside them and that all they had to do was believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He's the Savior of the world. He became the Savior of the world through the finished work of the cross. Most of these men have been told they can't be saved because they have killed someone. Most Honduran churches teach that if you carry a gun you cannot be saved.

They are familiar with the story of Christ but no one has ever told them they can be saved and they don't have to put down their guns or change careers to have the security of going to heaven. The bible teaches there is nothing we can do in ourselves that would make us righteous enough to get into heaven. It teaches that we are all sinners and are in need of a Savior to redeem us from the punishment of our sin. The Bible puts us all in the same boat. The grace of God is so powerful that these men began to cry and weep; there were only ten men in the first session that did not acknowledge that they received the free gift through Jesus Christ by faith.

These ten or so men, made it very clear that they weren't going to. One of the strange things in my line of work is that all people I reach out to all carry guns. There are times they have a look in their eyes that says just the thought of a God loving them enough to save them is so inviting to the deepest part of their souls, that to take that risk to believe it and it not to be true, would kill them. There are moments while I am talking that some would like to kill me because I am telling them something they want so bad it's indescribable. They have a belief system that tells them they can't have it. That's a living hell! In their unbelief they start to hate the messenger but love the message. Now multiply that by ten thousand! That's just one angle the evil one uses to trap them in so they don't ever believe. The reason I say this is when I am in a third world country where the country itself has no hope, and the people that are leading have no hope, and you bring in the Hope of all hopes – the message is either going to pierce their heart or it's going to pierce the pain they already have within them. They see me as the one causing this extreme pain. In other stories I will expose more of this and other tactics that the evil one uses to keep people enslaved.

At the end of the week 95% of those officers received Christ. For most, it was the first time they were able to receive love and to feel it through Jesus Christ. It changed their whole demeanor without changing their circumstances. Their salvation was "under the radar".

Our Work with Police

Soul Strengthening Through Physical Training

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Men and women in uniform face a great deal of danger, pressure, stress and trauma. TBLM Int’l offers tools to help officers deal with these issues.

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A look at a police officers life under the radar

In Honduras, most police officers are poorly trained, most police officers don’t wear a vest and have never fired their weapons, and most police officers don’t have a motor cycle or vehicle to drive. To make matters worse, they are placed in various spots in the city which leave them very vulnerable to the gangs. Their work is grueling and they work long hours.

The police are more like the army. They don’t like to be associated with the army, but the way the police dept. is managed no different than when they join the military. They own them so they can work them to the point where they are experiencing sleep deprivation. They are not counseled on how to deal with the daily, horrible things that they see and experience. There is sufficient teaching on how to resist corruption yet there is great pressure to do so. In some places they are corrupt and “that’s just the way it is”. Finally they are underpaid and under trained (as I mentioned).

It is a fact that corruption is high amongst the police department. It’s been told to me from several different high ranking police officials and government officials, that the fingers of corruption have touched everyone to one degree or another. That’s also frightening because the training is vigorous and hard and the academy facilities are run down, (it would be more fit for putting low risk criminals in their living quarters). It is difficult to keep a cadet in good spirits. It’s almost impossible for most except for those that have come from far worse conditions. In saying this I am not knocking down the Honduran police. I wouldn’t consider this writing negative towards them. It’s what I have experienced, seen and been involved in the last seven or eight years. Well, that’s a day in the life of a recruit, and a little bit about a day in the life of a police officer. More to come…

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